Modern Day Prophets revealed, are they True or False Prophets?
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Here is important information about some modern day professed Prophets. Are they false or true Prophets?The interesting things about these self proclaimed Prophets is that they keep the true 7th day Sabbath and they seem to speak to the law and to the testimony… But I have looked at some of their predictions and prophecies from the following web-sites and I have concluded that they are false Prophets. The one in particular Ronald Weinland has also predicted that a nuclear explosion will take place in the USA between Feb.17,2008 and July 16, 2008, and will kill thousands of people. Today is July 9,08 and nothing has happened yet. But that is not the only reason that I have concluded that they are false prophets.
They teach some truthful biblical points many the same as SDA’s. But they also teach that the “Abomination of Desolation” spoken of by Christ in Matthew 24 and ref. to Daniel chapters 11 and 12. Ronald says that this 1335 day prophecy of Daniel began in Feb. 08 of this year and he describes what he thinks it is and claims that the Lord showed him that many of these prophecies will be full-filled this year in 2008. He also claims to have special light on the “seven thunders” of Revelation and also on many other things. I thank God that a true knowledge of His word and the writings of Ellen White helps us, so we the elect will not be deceived. Check out these web-links below to see what these false prophets are saying and tell me if you think they are false or true prophets. Also, if Satan is using them to teach the false things about the “Abomination of Desolation” Do you think we SDA’s should be studying these things more and should we be proclaiming these true Prophecies of Daniel 11 and 12 and Matthew 24 on this subject? And if so, what is your understanding of the “Abomination of Desolation’???
For more information about these false Prophets check out the following web-links:
http://www.theshininglight.info
And for more truth about the “Abomination of Desolation” Check out these Adventist links:
http://thefourwinds.org/1335_III.shtml
http://www.adventistlaymen.com
http://www.amazingsigns.org/ASForum/
http://www.ConvincingEvidenceOfGod.com
And below are some of my thoughts on the subject “Abomination of Desolation” and quotes from Ellen White!
The Lord Jesus Warns Us About the “Abomination of Desolation” The Lord Jesus told us we would be persecuted and hated, and he also called attention to the prophecy in Daniel 8: in Matthew 24: He said:“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, (see Dan. 8:11-12. and Dan.12:8-13) standing in the holy place.” (‘Whoever reads, let him understand’) then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains…“ Matthew 24:15,16. And in Daniel
12—beginning with verse (8) “Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, “My lord, what shall be the end of these things?” (9) And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till time of the end. (10) Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but
the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand. (11) “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. (1290 days) (12)Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. (1,335 days) (13) “But you, go your way till the end;for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the
days.” Daniel 12:8-13.
What is this ‘abomination of desolation?’ I believe it has dual applications, for the generations in the times of Christ and for the future last day generations also. To the Judean Christians, it was when Pagan Rome used its government powers to conquered Jerusalem the Holy lands and ruled and persecuted Christians, the abomination was the absents of religious freedom and the “Standards” the Roman soldiers carried showed the eagle and the sun- it was about sun worshiping too false teachings. For our time future application, it will be Papal Rome,united with the USA that will also take away religious freedom and command worship on Sunday and will persecute Seventh-Day Christians in the USA and the world. And they will establish a false religion using the government to enforce it, allowing no religious freedom and and they will take away the true meaning of Christ death and resurrection,and change God’s true Ten Commandments and enforce the Catholic version of the Ten Commandments, leaving people in their sin un-confessed and un-repented of.
Christ death, Resurrection and Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary will be substituted by this counterfeit religion of the Anti-Christ. Daniel was told that the taking way of the daily sacrifice was applicable to the last days. The Little Horn Papacy power will substitute Christ daily ministries with their false Priesthood—counterfeiting the true Ministry of Christ. The Catholic Priest claim the power to forgive the sinner and cleanse them. They take away the ministry of Christ and claim for
themselves the position of Christ. They prevent the sinner from going directly to Christ whom is the only one able to give forgiveness and cleansing of sin.“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the
man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all…1Timothy 2:5-6.And when they take away freedom of religion and enforce by government legislation Sunday worship it is the “abomination of desolation.”
And about the Abomination of Desolation Ellen White says: “The time is not far distant, when, like the early disciples, we shall be forced to seek a refuge in desolate and solitary places. As the siege of
Jerusalem by the Roman armies was the signal for flight to the Judean Christians, so the assumption of power on the part of our nation [the United States] in the decree enforcing the papal Sabbath will be a warning to us. It will then be time to leave the large cities, preparatory to leaving the
smaller ones for retired homes in secluded places among the mountains…” Maranatha p.180.1
So here we read that the abomination of desolation is related to when Sunday worship is enforced in the USA ‘the papal Sabbath.When this takes place, it is a final sign that it is time to leave the large cities. I believe we should leave long before this, but this would be the latest we should live in or near the cities and if we are still trying to proclaim the gospel in the cities, this is time to go, to live in
rural country areas and we should be prepared to leave even the rural country areas we are living in as we see the prophecies full-filling and the Lord instructing us as we prepare to meet Him at the end of the time prophecy of Daniel 12:12.”And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.” Matthew 24:22.
Now the interpretation I am going to give of these last two chapters Daniel chapters (11) and (12) and verses also 11 and 12 in Daniel chapter (12) about the ‘Abomination of Desolation’—are just my own. First, I believe in Daniel chapter (11): were it talks about the war between the kings of the north and
south, the king of the north is a future prophecy It will be when Europe-Rome—Papal Rome will go to war with the Muslims Nations and Arab Nations of Egypt and will conquer Iraq, Iran and Israel. Iran is the king of the south. Papal Rome the kingdom north of Iraq, will set up a kingdom in Iraq
which is ancient Babylon and a kingdom in Israel too, but will continue to rule from the Vatican in Rome. Also, the popular Christian world is looking for Christ to come back to Israel and also for a new temple to be built there, I believe the Anti-Christ and Satan will give them what they are looking for
they will impersonate Christ and deceive many. Like the prophecy of Daniel chapter (2) showed us these kingdoms will not last and will be destroyed by God who will establish on the new earth and everlasting kingdom, the New Jerusalem. Not the old temple in Israel but the city of God coming down from heaven as John saw in vision in Revelation (22)
The prophecy of Daniel chapter (11) and (12) are not related to ancient Jerusalem, but are future prophecies related to last day events. And if you look on a world atlas map you will see that geographically these prophecies all fits with Daniel chapter (11), between the kings of the north and south. Also the other non-Christian Countries like China, India, Russia etcetera, will join the beast out of need for economic reasons, no one can buy or sell unless…and by there beliefs in common with spiritualism immortality of the soul, demons-devils will perform with signs and wonders even working miracles.
Also, I believe these 1,290 days of Daniel chapter 12:11, are related to the future and that unlike other day-year prophecies we already studied in Daniel chapter (8)and (9) that these days are literal,(1,290-1,335 literal days not years)but rather are about 3 and half years. The reason I believe this is true because the Angel gave what I believe is a literal interpretation of days. In addition to
calling it 1,290 days. Lets read it: “And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto
heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times, and an half; ( time = 1 year, times = 2 years, and half of time = half a year)three and one half years.And I believe by the angel adding this additional description about the time and times,that instead of just saying 1260 days, I believe this means we are to translate this as literal days.
I believe that from the time that Religious Freedom is taking away in USA and Sunday laws are enforced in the World by the Beast-which is a Religious Political Powers-Papal Rome. That then all the world will be commanded to worship or suffer punishment and then death, and that the total time of this persecution will be about (3) three years and 6 months and 15 days this is the 1,290 literal days. By the way, this is also about the exact amount of time that Christ lived from His baptism to His crucifixion and then resurrection, about (3) three and half years. I believe the saints that are alive at this time will continue to minister and live as Christ did and will be persecuted and tested
as He was during this three and half years and they will be comprise of the 144,000.I believe that if we have faith and can endure weariness, delay and hunger,for about 45 more days after the 1290 days, (literal days) even though this will probably be the time that the punishment changes to the death decree for those who refuse the ‘mark of the beast’ and we will have to leave our rural country
homes and go live in the secluded hills and mountains, it will last only for only about 45 days. Then Christ will come and save us, I believe this is the 1,335 days spoken of in Dan 12: (that is 1290 days plus 45 days =1,335 days)”Blessed is he who waits and come to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.”Daniel 12:12. The extra 45 days when we are persecuted, we have the
promise of deliverance from death, we will be delivered and Translated toHeaven like Christ was, but without dying. Of course this is just my interpretation, this is not an official teaching of SDA’s. And I believe the following quotes are applicable for this 45 day period-completing the 1,335
days.
“In this final time of trouble, we are not to make provision for our self but totally trust the Lord. “The Lord has shown me in vision, repeatedly,that it is contrary to the Bible to make any provision for our temporal wants in the time of trouble. ( This is referring not to the Little Time of Trouble-but rather the ‘Time of Jacob’s Trouble’ which I believe will climax during this 45 day period of the 1,335 day prophecy) I saw that if the saints have food laid up by them, or in the fields, in the time of trouble when sword, famine, and pestilence are in the land, it will be taken from them by violent hands, and strangers would reap their fields. Then will be the time for us to trust wholly in God, and He will sustain us. I saw that our bread and water would be sure at that time, and we should not lack, or
suffer hunger. The Lord has shown me that some of His children would fear when they see the price of food rising, and they would buy food andlay it by for the time of trouble. Then in a time of need, I saw them go to their food and look at it, and it had bred worms, and was full of living creatures, and not fit for use…”Houses and lands will be of no use to the saints in the time of trouble, for they will then have to flee before infuriated mobs, and at that time their possessions cannot be disposed of
to advance the cause of present truth…“I saw that if any held on to their property and did not inquire of the Lord as to their duty, He would not make duty known, and they would be permitted to keep their property,and in the time of trouble it would come up before them like a mountain to crush them, and they would try to dispose of it, but would not be able…. But if they desired to be taught, He would teach them, in a time of need, when to sell and how much to sell. In the last great conflict of the
controversy with Satan those who are loyal to God will see every earthly support cut off. Because they refuse to break His law in obedience to earthly powers, they will be forbidden to buy or sell. It will finally be decreed that they shall be put to death…. But to the obedient is given the
promise, “He shall dwell on high: his place of defense shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.”Isaiah 33:16. By this promise the children of God will live.” Maranatha,p. 181.4.
“A time is coming when the law of God is, in a special sense, to be made void in our land [the United States]. The rulers of our nation will,by legislative enactments, enforce the Sunday law, and thus God’s people will be brought into great peril. When our nation, in its legislative councils, shall enact laws to bind the consciences of men in regard to their religious privileges, enforcing Sunday observance, and bringing oppressive power to bear against those who keep the seventh-day
Sabbath, the law of God will, to all intents and purposes, be made void in our land…“When the land which the Lord provided as an asylum for His people, that they might worship Him according to the dictates of their own consciences, the land over which for long years the shield of Omnipotence has been spread, the land which God has favored by making it the depository of the pure religion of Christ—when that land shall, through its legislators, abjure the principles of Protestantism, and
give countenance to Romish apostasy in tampering with God’s law—it is then that the final work of the man of sin will be revealed. Protestants will throw their whole influence and strength on the side of the Papacy;by a national act enforcing the false Sabbath, they will give life and vigor to the corrupt faith of Rome, reviving her tyranny and oppression of conscience. Then it will be time for God to work in mighty power for the vindication of His truth.” E. G. White ‘Daily Devotional—‘Our Father
Cares’
“The trades unions will be one of the agencies that will bring upon this earth a time of trouble such as has not been since the world began. In all our great cities there will be a binding up in bundles by the
confederacies and unions formed. Men will rule other men and demand much of them. The lives of those who refuse to unite with these unions,will be in peril. The work of the people of God is to prepare for the events of the future, which will soon come upon them with blinding force. In the
world gigantic monopolies will be formed. Men will bind themselves together in unions that will wrap them in the folds of the enemy. A few men will combine to grasp all the means to be obtained in certain lines of business. Trades unions will be formed, and those who refuse to join these unions will be marked men…These unions are one of the signs of the last days. Men are binding up in bundles ready to be burned. They may be church members, but while they belong to these unions, they
cannot possibly keep the commandments of God; for to belong to these unions means to disregard the entire Decalogue…
“It is often the case that trouble is greater in anticipation than in reality; but this is no true of the crisis before us. The most vivid presentation cannot reach the magnitude of the ordeal.” Great
Controversy, p.622 “Transgression has almost reached its limit. Confusion fills the world, and a great terror is soon to come upon human beings. The end is very near. We who know the truth should be
preparing for what is soon to break upon the world as an overwhelming surprise.” Vol. 8.Testimonies 28.
“The time is not far distant when the test will come to every soul. The mark of the beast will be urged upon us. Those who have step by step yielded to worldly demands and conformed to worldly customs will not find it a hard matter to yield to the powers that be, rather then subject themselves to
derision, insult, threatened imprisonment and death. The contest is between the commandments of God and the commandments of men. In this time the gold will be separated form the dross in the church. True godliness will be distinguished form the appearance and tinsel of it.” Volume 5 Testimoniesto the Church page 81.
“With shouts of triumph, jeering, and imprecation, throngs of evil men are about to rush upon their prey, when lo, A dense blackness, deeper than the darkness of the night, falls upon the earth. Then a rainbow, shining with the glory from the throne of God, spans the heavens, and seems to encircle
each praying company. The angry multitudes are suddenly arrested. Their mocking cries die away. The objects of their murderous rage are forgotten. With fearful forebodings they gaze upon the symbol of God’s covenant, and long to be shielded from its overpowering brightness. Great Controversy p.88…
“By the people of God a voice, clear and melodious, is heard, saying, “Look up,” and, lifting their eyes to the heavens, they behold the bow of promise. The black, angry clouds that covered the firmament are parted, and like Stephen they look up steadfastly into Heaven, and see the glory of
God, and the Son of man seated upon his throne. In his divine form they discern the marks of his humiliation; and from his lips they hear the request,presented before his Father and the holy angels, “I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am.” [JOHN 17:24.] Again a voice,musical and triumphant, is heard, saying, “They come! they come! holy,
harmless, and undefiled. They have kept the word of my patience; they shall
walk among the angels;” and the pale, quivering lips of those who have held
fast their faith, utter a shout of victory. {Great Controversy 88 636.1}
Blessings In Christ, Messenger-Matthew
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