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Sorry for not posting to encourage others:
Posted by: jayfusnorma | Sat, May 19, 2007 8:27 am | Tag(s): Testimonies | Permalink |
Sorry I’ve been a little preoccupied and not been posting to encourage others as they are seeing something that others are not seeing. Particularily power of choice and ehuffman and the writings on the Pentecost and the timing. I had a good friend from Oregon send me a pass along written by what appeared to be a brother from one of the independent ministries who was quite critical of this OGR iniitive. It was very obvious that he had not listened to many of the sermons by Pastor Myers and perhaps what little he had were listened to with a desire to find fault. I’ve really been blessed with great light especially the understanding of “fire” in reference to God’s love and how it operates. It sheds great light on the understanding of God’s wrath (leaving a person to the choices he has made) and His vengeance ( the final end-time revealing of His love in it’s full strength to a people who haven’t gathered it in day by day during their lives). Do a word study on those to words in light of these definitions for a blessing. Now I want to share something of what needs to be done to make this a “success”. If we don’t understand the teachings of the latter rain which must mature the crop of end time believes for giving the loud cry it will either not come or be given by babes or the rocks will cry out. Two essential ingredients missing from this revival are the teachings of the New Covenent and what Jesus accomplished at the cross. The 1888 message which was the beginning of this latter rain must contain these elements or it will be like the disciples asking Jesus about “when” the “kingdom” would be set up but the problem they had thinking it was the overthrow of the Roman government prevented them from recieiving what they needed and hence the rebuke from Jesus. I will quote a previous entry to this forum which I find problematic.
“God’s time line is His own not ours… ours is to be showing God’s love to the world period… not spending hours trying to bring about his coming based on OUR understanding of the time line. Jesus specifically tells the disiples this before his assends in Acts 1… “When they were together for the last time they asked, “Master are you going to restore the kingdom to Isreael now? Is this the time?” He told them, “You don’t get to know the time. Timing is the Father’s business. What you’ll get is the Holy Spirit. And when the Holy Spirit comes on you, you will be able to be my witness in Jerusalem, all over Judea and Samaria, even to the ends of the world.” These were his last words.””
We have the same problem in that we don’t know what the latter rain is and is not being preached in our churches. These messages from AT Jones and EJ Waggoner were filled with special light which is neccesary for our people to have to prepare them for the months ahead. Specifically in language even a child can understand: The new covenent is beleiving God’s promises in His word not trying to make our own and to call the finished work in Jesus perfect life and sacrificial death bringing salvation to every man an “offer” is an insult to our dear Saviour. And of course the “nature of Christ” mentioned by another brother in an earlier post is right on. We need to teach it but with such love and humility that it will disarm the prejudice that we have built up as we have made it a “test” in our thinking. And be exceedingly careful not to say He “had” a sinful nature. Let’s use the bible language. He “took”, was “made”, “became” something He wasn’t. Just like in reverse we are made to be something we are not. We have a sinful nature and become partakers of the divine nature.
So as we pray brothers and sisters lets let this “rain” do it’s work in our lives to prepare us for the labor in the fields as the 4th angel is commisioned to annoint our lips with a message of such import that the world will be given such a demonstration of God’s glory that none will continue on the fence that does not exist and never has. As EGW quotes Joseph Wolff’s response to scoffers who would revile him in his preaching of the second advent prior to 1844 He stated when they would use the text “No one knows the day or the hours” he would say “Does Jesus say that no one ever would?” Amen. Jeffrey in China
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DeeDee Bindernagel | May 20th, 2007 at 4:23 pmJeffrey, I think you are mistaken about what is being promoted on this web site. There is no sanctity in mentioning the names of Jones and Waggoner. The message of righteousness by faith had been given to some degreee before them and I think has more fully been given after them. Dennis Smith has written much on this topic including some on this web site. So it is not as bad as you might think. also this site does not pretend to have all aspects of what needs to be done. Following Ellen White’s counsel they are calling us to receive the early and latter rain. There is a point at which we have to determine what is included in preparing for that. 
-dd k
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